The Talking Lion

Saturday, July 09, 2005

Deep. Breaths. Count. to. 10. GAH!!!

Well. If you want to stab you eyes out along with me read what the president of our country said today:
After returning from the summit on Friday, Bush visited the British Embassy in Washington and signed a book of condolence and laid a wreath in front of the ambassador's residence.

Bush said the London attacks were a reminder of the "evil" of the Sept. 11 attacks and underscored that the United States and its allies were fighting a "global war on terror."

"We will stay on the offense, fighting the terrorists abroad so we do not have to face them at home," Bush said.
For exactly what I think, here's Greg Saunders over at Talent Show:
Oh. my. god. This comment is so wrongheaded it even seems too stupid and insensitive for Bush


Gilligan and Gomer Pyle have nothing on this ignorant piece of shit. I still can't believe this moron is the most powerful man on Earth. Please wake me up from this nightmare.


  • really, what is your problem with what he said. i don't see anything on the linked commentary that even scares to be a critical analysis of what was said.

    By Blogger Kevin, at Sunday, 10 July, 2005  

  • I'm sorry, I thought it was obvious.

    Bush said, IN LONDON, that we're fighting terrorists abroad so we don't have to fight them at home. So, while fires in the UNderground are still being put out he's telling Londoners that it was his plan for them to be attacked/die so that Americans don't have to. He's saying that he signed London up to be our proxy in the whole suffering civillian death thing.

    To say it's a dick thing to say (pun intended, I would excpect this kind of mean bullshit out of Cheney's mouth before Bush's) is a gross understatement.

    I chalk it up to canned repeating of talking points, but the effing president shouldn't make this kind of mistake when talking about a friggin' terrorist attack that left so many people dead or injured.

    By Blogger Arun, at Sunday, 10 July, 2005  

  • Mr. Arun:

    You may be missing something, and this may even be forgivable, given that whenever human lives are at stake, tempers flaring and emotions boiling over are probably not only expected, but even arguably due (as in one is morally compelled to concern) from a position of valuing human life. Its hard to take seriously what you are saying, however – and the boasts of this post seem much less obvious to this reader. For all the punditry and commentary that occurs after one of these attacks, there seems to be a practice to try and assign a meaning to the tragedy that thousands have experienced in each of these cases. Such conjecture is as much a coping mechanism to some as they are mere talking points to others. That much of what you are saying could be understood and such an opinion is of course your prerogative etc – however, I believe you completely misunderstand what is intended in the Bush admin’s strategy for fighting terrorism (manifest in the talking point “fighting them abroad so we do not have to fight them at home”), immediately that of Islamic radicalism. You do a disservice to not only this curious “Kevin”, but also any posts you or your friends have previously posted that may have bore out some insight or interesting reflection upon the world around them. Insofar as gruesome murder can rock the convictions of a given person, there is a reason to “hammer home” some of these “talking points” in the hopes that you keep the hearts and minds of your electorate attuned to the means and ends of your strategy. While perhaps such talking points could be accused of representing something quite “narrow” or “simplistic”, it seems to be the manner in which governments communicate with their electorates and you probably won’t get into the nitty gritty details of policy and governance from any “canned” speech or quasi PR campaign by whoever is in power. Enter the blogosphere – here is a subculture that thrives on those nitty gritty details, divesting them and discrediting them in some strange ad hoc assemblage of quirky amateurs, journalists and folks with masters in political science/history etc. With posts like this, you preclude anyone who doesn’t already loath Bush and his inevitable and morbid blunders and buffoonery from even considering being persuaded by you, and insofar as you miss the opportunity to persuade, you post something that seems altogether more masturbatory and harmful to legitimate concerns and critiques you may or may not have.

    By Anonymous a reader, at Monday, 11 July, 2005  

  • Also,

    Kevin, your blog is even more a shameful immitation in that you dont allow comments. I'm not going to bother to read whatever bullshit you've posted because no doubt you and your "inner circle" of inclusive masters of oratory no doubt have tapped into something univeral and powerful and I needn't burden myself with the responsibility you, Dave and whoever the eff else have so begrudgingly bore. In fact, you deserve every tinge of sass Arun directed towards you. Grow up and get some higher standards, jerkass.

    By Anonymous same guy as above, at Monday, 11 July, 2005  

  • I have a lot I want to say here, but it's enough for a comment and a post, so here's the comment: Kevin, I've warned you about your continued association with that utterly vile blog. Same guy as before, I can assure you that Kevin's actual politics are not at all represented by Dave, Brian and Mary at the "Inner Circle"--those three idiots make Assrocket at Power Line look like Bertrand Russell. So that should serve as a defense of Kevin, and a friendly chiding. Honestly, those other three are fucking unhinged.

    As to substance, I think that the point of what Arun, in apparent concordance with Greg at The Talent Show, wants to say, is that, being in London, and saying that we are fighting the terrorists (although I think he's moving to change it to "terrrrists") "abroad" so that we don't have to "fight them at home" is incredibly callous when speaking in a city that was just hit at home.

    However, and here I will just make a brief comment, and hopefully organize my thoughts and post, and this is a thought in the same vein as many of my previous thoughts--Ok, I'm changing what I was going to say midstream, or rather, I have suddenly lost what I think I intended to make explicit--here goes: the reason I don't really comment on current events per se, and prefer to engage in a sort of meta-commentary on our entire mode of discourse, is that it has gotten to the point where the entire discourse cannibalizes itself, and spins frictionless, never touching reality. All of our politicians' phrases are empty, they hardly connect with the world at all. There is this vast lexical/discursive structure that isn't about anything but itself, and it touches on reality so rarely that one can make a career engage in it, scorekeeping within it, and really do nothing at all. And that is what we are doing here.

    By Blogger Patrick, at Monday, 11 July, 2005  

  • "A Reader",

    Your comment is a well-written and wrong. Being someone of such a prestigious blog as well as saying a lot of different things I feel that your comment deserves a post. So please check back for my response.

    Thanks for commenting.

    By Blogger Arun, at Monday, 11 July, 2005  

  • Also, I wasn't really directing my sass at Kevin but at the statement.

    By Blogger Arun, at Monday, 11 July, 2005  

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