The Talking Lion

Friday, July 29, 2005

No fucking shame...

The Senate may pass legislation that makes gun manufacturers free of any liability for their products. This is a pretty blatant purchase by the NRA and other gun-related special interests. And you can read all about it in the WashPost article linked above. What really chaffes my ass is how the R's are trying to sell it. They're telling us we need to support this legislation because its a matter of national security:
Supporters of the bill contend that the lawsuits could bankrupt firearm manufacturers such as Beretta USA Corp., which provides the standard side arm to the U.S. armed forces, potentially compromising the safety of American troops.

"The Department of Defense faces the very real prospect of outsourcing side arms for our soldiers to foreign manufacturers," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.).

Which is bullshit. You know why?

Opponents note that Beretta USA is a subsidiary of the Italian company Beretta Holding SpA.

These fucking Republican bastards have no fucking shame.

They're honestly trying to pass this legislation as though it will fight terrorism and protect our shores from dangerous minorities. Tools.


But that's not even the worst part.

Guess who also supports the bill. Our leaDer in the Senate, Harry Fucking Reid. I mean, honestly, how the hell are we supposed to beat these jerks if our own people, let alone the fucking minority leader of the senate, isn't along for the fight.


What the D's need to do is lock themselves in a room and get a platform together. Then fucking show a unified front. And take it to the R's.


Also, Joementum is not invited to said meeting.

6 Comments:

  • Although I am by no means a Republican, I am totally in favor of private gun ownership and I am also totally in favor of this bill. Suing gun manufacturers for the actions of criminals is totally absurd.

    In the same vein, suing P2P software companies for the illegal music trading that its users commit is also absurd. See the similarities?

    To give it yet another perspective: There was a child who recently was convicted of killing his friend with a baseball bat. Im sure you heard about this story on the news. Well, should the family of the victim be able to sue the baseball bat manufacturer? I dont think so.

    If this bill passes, all kinds of crazy shit can go down. For example: A police officer kills an innocent man in a dark alleyway due to some mistaken identity or something. The police officer gets a wrongful death suit from the victims family. Should the victims family also be able to sue the manufacturer of the policemans gun? I dont think so.

    By Blogger Aaron Kinney, at Friday, 29 July, 2005  

  • You are right about noe thing though: this bill is not about national security. This bill is actually about protecting capitalism and corporations, and protecting individual rights.

    What if I were to start a gun firm? If a criminal uses my product to commit a crime, but I sold the gun legally, I should be immune from a lawsuit to protect my corporation and my individual rights.

    By Blogger Aaron Kinney, at Friday, 29 July, 2005  

  • well you see, sir, you are wrong because arun doesnt like guns. guns are bad, mmm kay?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Saturday, 30 July, 2005  

  • This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    By Blogger Arun, at Saturday, 30 July, 2005  

  • Well Anon., I don't like guns but thats besides the point. And also, way to be The Talking Lion's first troll, hot stuff.

    Aaron,

    In your P2P example: Napster lost to the RIAA for contributing to illegal activities. Napster settled the case out of court by effectively bankrupting themselves.

    Baseball bat example: Baseball bats are not designed to kill people. Thus the company cannot possibly be held liable. However, if internal memo's surfaced that showed Louisville Slugger of designing bats to be used as weapons and not for baseball, that case might be reopened (ala Camel Joe rulings). But LS doesn't so it won't.

    I think that private gun ownership is stupid for a number of reasons, but we unfortunately don't legislate stupidity (case in point, Intelligent Design advocates are allowed to call themselves scientists).

    As far as the bill goes (one of) the reason(s) it's bad is that its a completely superfluous gift to the gun-lobby. Just like all that bullshit about trial lawyers jacking up medical insurance (see Ezra Kleins two posts linked at the bottom), the gun manufacturers don't need this protection. Well, they do because otherwise they're going to lose money in justified lawsuits. But what this bill does is make it nearly impossible to bring any liabilty issues to trial even when its warranted.


    http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2005/07/malpractice_rou.html
    http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2005/07/malpractice_in_.html

    By Blogger Arun, at Saturday, 30 July, 2005  

  • the comment that was removed was my own, i had some grammar issues.

    By Blogger Arun, at Saturday, 30 July, 2005  

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